Talk:Piedmont (United States)
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[edit]Sigh...once again I have reverted an edit by Bobby Hubbard. If I were to start replacing metric units in English or French geographical articles with miles and acres, I'm sure I'd get my hands slapped, because it would be highly arrogant. If you want to add metric as a second set of units as a courtesy to those who are more familiar with metric, go ahead, but replacing the units that are familiar to Americans in an article on American geography is over the line.
I'm sure I'd like to see metric in the US as much as you, but your heavy-handed approach is more likely to hinder than help the process. Pollinator 06:24, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
Extent/states
[edit]Across which states is the region considered to extend? It seems most associated with Virginia and the Carolinas, but the article doesn't specify. I think it would be useful to add the article to some relevant geography categories (Category:Geography of North Carolina, etc.), but which ones? – Malepheasant 05:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Ditto what Malepheasant said. I added a reference to the Piedmont Triad region in NC where the term "Piedmont" is most commonly used. Gooday.1 17 April 2006
If someone wants to work it in, Maryland has a "piedmont" region as well as a subregion to Western Maryland. Frederick, Maryland's second largest city, is in the piedmont region.
Population?
[edit]I think it would be notable and interesting to include the estimated population of this region. I imagine it is quite sizable, and with most people probably having never heard of this region of the US, it would increase this article's noteworthiness. -Laikalynx (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- It isn't Wikipedia's job to increase the noteworthiness of terms. -67.42.84.211 (talk)
- But apart from that, I can't see why it wouldn't be a good thing to add. 66.183.104.162 (talk) 05:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
The map
[edit]I'm a bit confused about that map. According to the map I grew up in this region, but I've never heard of it. The map would seem to include Philadelphia, Wilmington, Baltimore, and DC. The rest of the article focuses exclusively on areas further south. I am not sure what this is meant to suggest. -67.42.84.211 (talk) 22:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Just noticed that the article Fall line kind of explains this better. -67.42.84.211 (talk) 22:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is primarily a geologic region, not a cultural one, not sure I'd expect people that haven't studied geology to know about it. The cities you list are all "fall line" cities, the fall line was pretty significant in early eastern U.S. settlement patterns as it's usually the limit of navigation along the major rivers. Kmusser (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- I grew up on the edge of the region in the north (Trenton NJ), and know all about it. I think that further north, its more of an intellectual subdivision (or geologic as stated above), not so much the cultural region that it is further south.Famartin (talk) 03:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Right, I think what confused me is that the article focuses on both the geology and the cultural identity exclusive to the south, without explicitly stating the difference. -67.42.84.211 (talk) 07:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- The region is based on what is called a physiographic definition. The classifications go like this: Division (7-total in the 48 states, this area is Appalachian Highlands); Province (this is Piedmont); Section - there are 2 in the Piedmont region - Uplands and Lowlands. I am going to propose a map that makes this more clear. Deanrah (talk) 20:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Right, I think what confused me is that the article focuses on both the geology and the cultural identity exclusive to the south, without explicitly stating the difference. -67.42.84.211 (talk) 07:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I grew up on the edge of the region in the north (Trenton NJ), and know all about it. I think that further north, its more of an intellectual subdivision (or geologic as stated above), not so much the cultural region that it is further south.Famartin (talk) 03:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is primarily a geologic region, not a cultural one, not sure I'd expect people that haven't studied geology to know about it. The cities you list are all "fall line" cities, the fall line was pretty significant in early eastern U.S. settlement patterns as it's usually the limit of navigation along the major rivers. Kmusser (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Music section
[edit]The section on music needs to be reworked. This is the only place I've read or heard that the Piedmont was settled by African Americans during the period of the Great Migration. They were here long before that, including the urban areas, and as the region was just as segregated as the black belt south, there was no incentive to migrate. There was also vibrant non blues traditional music in the area in areas like Atlanta and Charlotte —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.61.58 (talk) 21:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the music section is out of place, another vote to remove — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.245.204 (talk) 02:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Cities
[edit]Who calls the Charlotte-Mecklenburg area "Metrolina"? Is this some new marketing trying to sound hip? It's Charlotte folks. It doesn't need a hip new name. It's just Charlotte. Ldsoldier (talk) 17:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
French or Italian?
[edit]The article currently states:
The word Piedmont comes from the French word Italian: Piemonte, meaning "foothill", ultimately from Latin "pedemontium", meaning "at the foot of the mountains", similar to the name of the Italian region of Piedmont (Piemonte), abutting the Alps.
This seems contradictory and confusing. Similar words clearly exist in both French and Italian, but where did the English word actually come from? Hominid77777 (talk) 18:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is a combination of the two french words: Pied (foot) and mont (mountain). There is a region of Italy called Piedmont. Britannica: Piedmont, regione (region), northwestern Italy, comprising the province (provinces) of Alessandria, Asti, Biella, Cuneo, Novara, Torino, Verbano-Cusio-Ossola, and Vercelli. . . The core of Piedmont is the Po River valley, which lies open to the east and consists of some of the best farmlands in Italy.
- The name piedmont (“at the foot of a mountain”) has become a term generally applied to such a region. H.E. Hall (talk) 13:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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