Talk:Maynard Ferguson

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ok main image someone upload this maynard ferguson image into the red link where an image should be. I found it on 2006 evanston jazz festivalthank you very much, Ekgladiator (talk) 00:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

oops! The High Voltage link is to an AC/DC album. I'm not sure either Big Bop Neuveau or High Voltage really require articles apart from the already-anemic MF article. Thoughts?

-- Ventura 18:28, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)

im removing the broken link (as part of some more general rearancement High volatage will be redirecting to High voltage which is a disambiguation page.) Plugwash 18:36, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

High voltage was such a tiny blip that it's not even possible to get their two albums on CD. I know farily a lot about MF so I will get on this page shortly. I would say that the two big parts of his solo career were his post Stan Kenton days with his unnamed band and the Big Bop Nouveau part, but it itself is not very notable. Theloniouszen 00:11, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Data merged from "Maynard ferguson" article, may need tweaking from someone more familiar with this artist. It's not clear if the "Innovations Orchestra" is separate from Stan Kenton's 1941 band or not. Peter Grey 03:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The ===Big Bop Nouveau=== section's last sentence/paragraph rehashes something from the first paragraph. I am not sure how to fix this, but I wanted to mention it so that someone closer to the creation of this entry might have a go. Artwholeflaffer (talk) 22:22, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

date of return to America

in the third paragraph of the section Accomplishments in the US, it says Ferguson returned to the US in 1974, but in the next paragraph, it says he returned in 1972. I don't know enough about the artist to correct this. Just writing a short report and noticed this. 199.184.205.215 07:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC) It is stated that Maynard went to Manchester when he came to the UK. This is incorrect. Maynard moved to just outside Windsor (about 20 miles from London) in a very small place called Oakley Green. I know because I became very good friends with Corby and Lisa, two of his daughters and lived about 200 yards away from him. He had two houses whilst he was in the UK the final one being a 3 storey house down by the River Thames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deltronic (talk • contribs) 16:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

High Voltage

Maynards High Voltage period deserves at least a partial documentation. It was much more than a blip on the radar; High Voltage represents the mentality of he music scene of that time period and a new branch of the jazz idiom.

The to user who claims to know so much about Maynard, his post-Kenton era band did in fact have a name: The Birdland Dreamband. He released 2 albums with that group.

And to the same user, you say that one of the reasons that High Voltage doesn't deserve a mention is that the two H.V albums are not availabe on CD. By this logic, I suppose we can disregard everything that came before the MF Horn era. --Ersatz 20:47, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Drugs paragraph-- what does it say?

Does this:

Drugs
Maynard Ferguson had a friendship with 1960s guru Timothy Leary. Leary's experimentation with the drug LSD is well known. During this period, Maynard experimented with LSD as well. This activity continued for a few years with almost no adverse effects on his playing. Maynard is known to have developed embouchure problems during the late 1960s. By the early 1970s, Ferguson ended his drug use and although it never influenced his music in a negative way.

actually say anything of value/interest? If not, I propose removing it. --Light current 00:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed from page:

Drugs

Maynard Ferguson had a friendship with 1960s guru Timothy Leary. Leary's experimentation with the drug LSD is well known. During this period, Maynard experimented with LSD as well. This activity continued for a few years with almost no adverse effects on his playing. Maynard is known to have developed embouchure problems during the late 1960s.

By the early 1970s, Ferguson ended his drug use and although it never influenced his music in a negative way.

--Light current 00:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Double High C?

I know Maynard's range is amazing, but double high C (the second C above the staff) really doesn't do him justice, as there have been many other people to hit that note. Maybe the wording is incorrect? --CajunPhoenix 11:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is inconsistency in the labeling of octaves among trumpet players. It might be better to use the standard octave notation, which is derived from the piano. Middle C is C4, and would be a "low D" on the trumpet (remember that the trumpet is a transposing instrument, and sounds a whole tone lower than written). Bb just below Middle C would be Bb3, and would be a "low C" on the trumpet. Maynard consistently played Bb6, which some call "double high C" and some call "triple high C." I have personally heard him play Bb7. Consider that this note is higher than any note on a piano!Weyandt 18:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I refute the above paragraph. If you are going to be referring to trumpet players, then you have to use their vocabulary and understand the terminology from their perspective. Not impose an academic explanation to it. No band director would ever tell a trumpet player to play their C4, C5, or C6. They understand and would use the terminology Low C, Middle C, and High C. From the perspective of the band world and trumpet playing, double high C is correct. You have to be willing to remove yourself from academia and think from the players perspective. I know that in music schools, everything is taught from the perspective of piano. However if you know your music history, the trumpet's been around a few thousand years longer than the piano and you should respect your elders. It's a Double High C! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:8980:6410:79A6:2272:2EBA:A646 (talk) 05:37, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maynard's passing

Such incredibly bad news. An official statement is coming, but it's been confirmed by the likes of Eric Miyashiro and Stan Mark. I've changed the biography template on this page to reflect this unfortunate news and I'll be putting something in the article shortly if I can find the right words to do so. RIP Maynard... --Jemiller226 16:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The death section is copied almost verbatim from the statement released by Maynard's management which read, "He was 78 years old. His death was the result of kidney and liver failure brought on by an abdominal infection. Mr. Ferguson's four daughters, Kim, Lisa, Corby, Wilder and other family members were at his side when he passed away after this brief illness." Didn't know if this is an issue --Goodnightmush 21:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup/restructure

Recently there's been a lot of good info added to the "Modern Influences" subsection. However, it's become a mix of general overview about Maynard and his playing style, details on his mid-70s recording career with Columbia, etc. -- and the next subsection then jumps back to his return from Europe. We need to spend a bit of time rearranging all of this existing material to make it flow better. Engineer Bob 17:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Dee

Since I'm not British, I can't say this with authority, but based on what I've seen elsewhere the section on MF on the Simon Dee show seemed to inflate the importance of Dee and the show to similarly inflate Ferguson's stature, which hardly seems necessary. I did a major trim on anything that looked POV, but left in a couple of bits with requests for citation. Anyone want to review this?--NapoliRoma 21:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Band Alumni

I was perusing the Stan Kenton article, and it has a list of famous artists who, like Maynard, were band alumni. Since the first sentence of this article acknowledges Maynard's role in starting the careers of numerous famous artists, someone needs to research this and create an band alumni list for this article Weyandt 18:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Professional Honorary Brother of ADM

Maynard was a Professional Honorary Brother of the musical fraternity, Alpha Delta Mu (inducted by the Alpha Chapter, located at Morrisville State College, in Morrisville, New York. I'm not sure what I can provide as a source for this, aside from the fact that it was in my book of knowledge as a pledge that I must memorize, and that all 445 other brothers of the fraternity will vouch for me on this. I'd really like to see something put on his page about this...is it possible? -Nichole, Anonymous User, nicholevanepps@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.230.120.66 (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge with Big Bop Nouveau

Big Bop Nouveau is a short, unsourced article about Ferguson's band. I propose that it be merged into the Maynard Ferguson article.
Vmavanti (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life section incomplete

The last sentence of the Personal Life section says: "Ferguson died on August 23, 2006, at the Community Memorial Hospital. His death was blamed on" and then doesn't continue. Looks like someone started typing but didn't finish. Could someone please complete this? Haddock420 (talk) 17:03, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]