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Absinthe in Prince Edward Island, Canada section

This article states that Deep Roots absinthe is not available from provincial liquor stores, but it has since been stocked by them. See https://liquorpei.com/products/deep-roots-absinthe/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.105.65 (talk) 05:06, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Error

The first website cited in the tab Health affects under the number 84 is not a credible website or author. 24.240.72.156 (talk) 23:56, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those numbers change. Can you cite the source of your concern. GenQuest ^"scribble" 02:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mythology of absinthe

It's wild that the mythology of the alleged psychoactive and harmful effects of absinthe still persists and was pervasive throughout the 20th century despite zero evidence. I think the cultural influence should say a bit more about this odd reputation. Viriditas (talk) 00:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Absinthe is a cocktail of terpenoid bearing plants proportioned according to flavor and physical effect. I will explain to the uneducated layperson: All terpenoids are hallucinogenic. The hallucinogenic dosage is interchangeable, so that one may combine multiple different terpenoids. BUT those terpenoids with a strong physical effect are always dosed according to the physical effect, so that by the time you had as much of the physical effect as you could handle, from lemon balm for example, you would need hundreds of times more to notice the hallucinogenic effects. THC is for example a terpenoid but because of its physical effects one could not get enough in one's system to notice any hallucinogenic qualities.

So lemon balm couldn't produce the hallucinogenic effects by itself, so the other herbs are added, proportioned according to flavor. Made correctly, absinthe tastes good and by the time you have as strong of physical effects from the lemon balm as what you can handle, you'll notice the hallucinogenic dose of terpenoids in your system and be able to "See" the effects.

Terpenoids are hallucinogenic because they contain phenol, as made obvious in the other name for terpenoids: Phenylpropanoids. Phenylpropanoid is the compositional naming convention name, and terpenoid is the structural naming convention name. Terpenoids break down in the bloodstream and release phenol. This phenol is now across the blood brain barrier. Phenol is a messenger chemical, it stores chemical data.

If a messenger chemical gets passed the blood brain barrier, it would produce hallucinogenic effects (in high enough doses). Tryptophan is derived from phenol. Every life form that makes tryptamine first makes phenol then uses the phenol to make first tryptophan then the tryptamine. Since phenol has more chemical data than tryptophan, it would have stronger hallucinogenic effects.

The best comparison of the hallucinogenic effects of terpenoids is to say that if serotonin could cross the blood brain barrier it would be hallucinogenic and phenol only has a little more data in it, so terpenoids can show you what the hallucinogenic effects of tryptophan would be like if it could cross the blood brain barrier.

So as for "Alleged" psychoactive effects, please know what you are talking about before you talk. You should have experimented with real absinthe that was made correctly, and you would have experienced the powerful euphoria of lemon balm and the mild hallucinogenic effects of the terpenoids cocktail.

Real recipe of absinthe as obtained from one of the books cited on the wiki absinthe page (not concentrated) (per gallon): 1 ounce of Angelica root, 1 ounce of lemon balm, quarter ounce of anise, eighth ounce of nutmeg, eighth ounce of mugwort. Without the mugwort, the drink will be too rich to drink. The bitter balances it. And yes it's mugwort, not wormwood. Don't argue with me until you've had this drink. It tastes good, it has powerful euphoria, and hallucinogenic effects. 65.75.232.102 (talk) 13:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

real Absinthe

Hello. Absinthe is made with Angelica root and Lemon balm. The Mugwort is used as a bitter to balance the flavor. The anise is only used in a small amount and used to improve the overall flavor, but the amount of anise is not distinguishable as anise due to the small amounts.

However wiki wants people to donate money while getting articles like this wrong. There is a book cited on the absinthe page that tells you the recipe but the wiki article ignorantly says it's "Anise flavored" beverage.

There is anise in root beer, but it doesn't taste like anise. Just how the anise in absinthe isn't enough to make it taste like anise.

Unless you can correct your article so that the description is in line with the books you cite, no one could financially support the wiki.

If you tell people the truth about absinthe I will donate lots of money.

There are other problems, though. Such as the article on dalmations says they are from dalmatia when one of the books cited on the dalmation page says they are from Egypt, bred to run with horses.

WIki doesn't deserve to keep running when the pages say a bunch of nonsense in comparison to the book they are citing. How is that possible? To list a book as a reference on the bottom of the page, but to give false information on the page?

Wiki would fail fact checkers. The irony is the books you cite say one thing but the page says another.

I hope wiki is taken off the internet because of the false information and lies they spread. 65.75.232.102 (talk) 13:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]