Talk:Kingmaker

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Will this become more than a dictionary entry? Pagan 09:58, 30 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I evidently do not know how to make a redirect. Please feel at liberty to fix that. Mike Church 04:16, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I don't think Karl Rove should count as a kingmaker. Traditionally the title refers to someone whose influence is such that their support is enough to get someone elected regardless of qualifications. Karl Rove is more of a hired gun who is extremely talented at getting people elected. I think Huey Long is a perfect example of a kingmaker. 24.192.99.240 02:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)Adam[reply]

I agree, and people who say he is don't really understand the term. Karl Rove does not decide who gets to be king (or president); he's just a good campaign strategist. Actually, I think the same thing applies to a few of the people listed in this article right now.--71.37.39.39 14:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed him for now. --Tom 14:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and folks included

Can we get some sources? Thanks, --Tom 14:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Palin

I'm wondering if Sarah Palin might deserve a place here as a more well-known example. Whereas Karl Rove is a political strategist and campaign manager, Palin has made a concerted effort to offer endorsements to so-called "Tea Party" candidates across the United States. By no means am I a fan of hers, but I've heard the "Kingmaker" term applied to her several times on the major cable news networks. 129.100.188.97 (talk) 22:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--sarah palin didn't get anyone elected, nor does she have the power to appoint an election, so why should she be in this article. People who label her as such are using the term wrongly to promote her so-called 'social power'. I doubt that anyone will ever be elected solely because of her activities ----

This entry for Sarah Palin on the article is rather ridiculous. Barely more than half of her endorsements got elected during an election period that was widely speculated beforehand to swing heavily in the Republicans' favor. If she is a Kingmaker, she's rather terrible at it. 50.131.166.246 (talk) 00:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Same as grey eminence?

éminence grise /ˌɛmɪnɒ̃s ˈɡriːz/ noun a person who exercises power or influence in a certain sphere without holding an official position. Zezen (talk) 10:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Political Strategists as Kingmakers

Dick Morris and David Axelrod, while certainly political strategists and played important roles in the elections of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, respectively, are not "kingmakers" in any sense. Not sure why these two names appear as examples, as it leads to confusion to what is a kingmaker. Much for the same reason that Karl Rove was removed from the example list several years ago. --Squeetastic (talk) 14:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Portuguese legislative election

Put Chega? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4B00:9E0:A894:365E:D049:74C (talk) 18:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]