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Motto: "Potentia" =/= "Potestas"

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I remember visiting the website when it was first operational. Among the things that struck me, and not mentioned in the article, is the menace in the motto. The definition for the Latin "potentia" is more akin to "force" (see here). A less-menacing choice would have been "potestas", which has more of a meaning of "opportunity" (see here). I remember there was quite a bit of discussion online about it (see here, especially among the conspiracy crowd. Does this deserve its own section? --Roland 21:27, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Urban legend?

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really how much of this is conspiracy theory? I don't have time to set this all right, but one sentence (also mentioned below) caught my eye: "This was achieved by creating enormous computer databases to gather and store the personal information of everyone in the United States, including personal e-mails, social networks, credit card records, phone calls, medical records, and numerous other sources, without any requirement for a search warrant" When I checked the source, it was the New York Times, 2002 -- but I wondered why it would not have a link. Good Samaritan; it took me only a minute to find the article and I added the link -- then found it does not support the statement made! (I would note that in the article but don't know how... yet). Was that why no URL? The Times article describes a completely hypothetical program being considered for the future, not something in place. I know we're supposed to assume good faith, but right now, that's a struggle. alacarte (talk) 17:03, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I've been making minor edits to wikipedia for years and now, suddenly ...I have my first messages!! Both from the same person, though, curiously, about two different articles -- and this is one of the articles. The message noted a revert to the format I used for the link after "search warrant" in the text -- reference [7] as it stands, New York Times. I don't edit often enough to bother to learn all the soul-numbing picayune esoterica of formatting. I just know that if I find something wrong -- as here, the surprising discovery of a reference to a post-web New York Times article with no linking -- I will go in, borrow someone else's template , do my best to fix the problem, TEST IT TO SEE THAT IT WORKS, and leave feeling righteous. I see however that User:GigglesnortHotel has now "fixed" the formatting of my edit, so the link does NOT work - not on my browser anyway. Now it leads to "Page not found". Someone corrected a link without testing? And before saving this comment I see that I had already pointed out in a comment above (under the heading "Urban legend?") that the Times article did not support the claims made for it. I have again checked that my way worked but I won't fix the link again. Some Grand Guru of can do that. But let me be totally upfront about this: my "assumption of good faith" is gone. Obviously the link failure is the way the page's authors want things. No wonder no one supports Wikipedia anymore. alacarte (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The broken link has been fixed. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 20:08, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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